Hamilton2
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| posted on 7-29-2010 at 10:06 PM |
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Veterans/Mentors Available for draft picks
Prices, in draft picks, I would also accept similar quality prospects rather than picks:
A- overall = 1st rounder or 2 2nd rounders
B+ overall = 2nd rounder or 2 3rd rounders
B overall = 3rd rounder
bolded = a good quality prospect or 1st rounder, and a 2nd rounder
Available players from Philadelphia:
SP Rivera
RP Walsh
RP Boyle
RP Stuper
1B Cox
2B/3B Handiboe
2B/3B Bubser
3B Barnes
SS Kenworthy
SS Reis
SS Doyle
OF Monday
OF Burns
OF Swigler
OF Mattox
OF Hungling
Thank you in advance for any offers. The players I have available are (mostly) not great (except for Monday and Handiboe), I'm just trying to get younger and I only marginally care about the quality of the picks/youth.
Here is a link to my depth chart.
[Edited on 7-29-2010 by Hamilton2]
[Edited on 7-29-2010 by Hamilton2]
-J
Philadelphia Hamiltonians (Catfish Hunter League)
Washington Hamiltonians (Vince Coleman League)
Brooklyn Hamiltonians (Sandy Amoros League)
New York Hamiltonians (Bob Horner League)
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262run
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| posted on 8-2-2010 at 09:32 PM |
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Note to A.L.: Please quit trading all your "A" rated players to Philly!!
They have a total of 11 on the roster! They have 43% of the A rated
offensive players in the league, and 38% of the A rated starters in the
league. Give the rest of us a chance.
Jim~
Cuyahoga River Fire - Ed Delahanty Lg - Owner 1969 - 1998 seasons
Overall record: 2643-2379 .526 with 8 1sts, 8 2nds, 5 A.L. Champ, 5 W.S.
Champ
Damn Yankees - Pete Rose Lg - Owner 1960 - 1976 seasons
Overall record: 1676-1078 .609 with 8 1sts, 6 2nds, 7 3rds, 4 A.L. Champ, 4
W.S. Champ
Ragin' Injuns - Luis Aparicio Lg - Founding owner 1950 - 1966
Seasons
Overall record: 1605-1149 .583 with 6 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 3 A.L. Champ, 3
W.S. Champ
Trolley Dodgers - Catfish Hunter Lg - Founding owner 1950 - 1973 Seasons
Overall record: 2195-1693 .565 with 5 1sts, 7 2nds, 4 3rds, 7 N.L. Champ,
3 WS Champ
Baltimore Orioles - Carlton Fisk Lg - Owner 2000 - 2021 Seasons
Overall record: 2130-1435 .597 with 9 1st, 4 2nd, 1 3rd, 7 A.L. Champ, 3
WS Champ
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tfarr_24
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| posted on 8-2-2010 at 10:01 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 262run
Note to A.L.: Please quit trading all your "A" rated players to Philly!!
They have a total of 11 on the roster! They have 43% of the A rated
offensive players in the league, and 38% of the A rated starters in the
league. Give the rest of us a chance.
Jim~ |
Yeah, he's pretty loaded up over there. I don't foresee an AL World
Champion for a few years.......that's scary
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Hamilton2
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| posted on 8-2-2010 at 11:00 PM |
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Meanwhile, I'm trying to sell an A overall OF and no one is interested ...
hmm.
-J
Philadelphia Hamiltonians (Catfish Hunter League)
Washington Hamiltonians (Vince Coleman League)
Brooklyn Hamiltonians (Sandy Amoros League)
New York Hamiltonians (Bob Horner League)
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262run
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| posted on 8-2-2010 at 11:45 PM |
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Nobody wants Monday because he is OS 35, which is too old for a #1 or two
#2 picks. Also, the other 7 teams in the N.L. still have no chance against
Philly even if we added 3 or 4 "Monday" type players. Your team is a
juggernaut, pure and simple.
Cuyahoga River Fire - Ed Delahanty Lg - Owner 1969 - 1998 seasons
Overall record: 2643-2379 .526 with 8 1sts, 8 2nds, 5 A.L. Champ, 5 W.S.
Champ
Damn Yankees - Pete Rose Lg - Owner 1960 - 1976 seasons
Overall record: 1676-1078 .609 with 8 1sts, 6 2nds, 7 3rds, 4 A.L. Champ, 4
W.S. Champ
Ragin' Injuns - Luis Aparicio Lg - Founding owner 1950 - 1966
Seasons
Overall record: 1605-1149 .583 with 6 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 3 A.L. Champ, 3
W.S. Champ
Trolley Dodgers - Catfish Hunter Lg - Founding owner 1950 - 1973 Seasons
Overall record: 2195-1693 .565 with 5 1sts, 7 2nds, 4 3rds, 7 N.L. Champ,
3 WS Champ
Baltimore Orioles - Carlton Fisk Lg - Owner 2000 - 2021 Seasons
Overall record: 2130-1435 .597 with 9 1st, 4 2nd, 1 3rd, 7 A.L. Champ, 3
WS Champ
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Smackhead
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| posted on 8-3-2010 at 12:54 AM |
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lol, an A overall player on the bench.
Colorado Thundersnow - Ed Roush League (Expansion - 1985 - Commish)
ERL Champions 1996
Chicago Dictators - Catfish Hunter League (Founder)
CHL Champions 1964, 1965
CHL Hall of Fame: Mike Beane, Andy Cullen, Shawn Ford, LeRoi Jones, Eli Polian
Pittsburgh Pirates - Richie Ashburn League (Founder -Retired)
RAL Champions 1957, 1975
RAL Hall of Fame: Dixie Druhot, Jack Grey, Harry Hyde
Chicago Generals - Sandy Amoros League (Founder - Retired)
SAL Champions 1959
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jyoung78
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| posted on 8-3-2010 at 02:07 AM |
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I think it's great watching Ham keep this thing rolling. He clearly
understands the value of the great player vs the very good player and he's
used it to build a dynasty. Perhaps if some owners weren't petrified to
trade any youth they could enjoy at least some of the same success he has.
You can't build a team 100% through the draft and when your team is only a
few pieces away it's ok to deal a 1st or a really good prospect to acquire
those missing pieces. The market for vets has completely fallen apart and
it almost feels like some owners would rather have a great minor league
system than a great product on the field. Just look at Ham's roster, he
only drafted 3 of his current 25 man roster. The other 22 were obtained in
trades, most in deals where he traded youth for proven talent, just look at
the George Hamner and Earl Washington deals.
Oakland Climbers (Catfish Hunter)
San Francisco Raccoons (Sandy Amoros)
San Francisco Orange Sox (Paul Molitor)
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dangallo
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| posted on 8-3-2010 at 01:50 PM |
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You really can't fault somebody for making trade proposals, accepting the
ones that are offered to him, and negotiating with guys who are interested
in his players. Joe is obviously the most active owner in the league and
usually that pays dividends because you know where the talent is, the likes
and dislikes of your fellow owners, etc. What's surprising is that
sometimes it seems like there are posts that indicate availability of
players and then "bam" they're gone - and often for poor returns.
Leonard obviously has a boatload of experience and has probably dealt with
Joe in the past which makes executing a deal easier but I personally
thought he got poor value in that trade - I sent a couple of pretty good
young players to Cleveland 10 days earlier (real world time) for a veteran
reliever which IMO would indicate that I'm open for business and looking
to get better but never received so much as a u2u or trade offer (in fact
other than Joe I can't remember the last trade offer I've gotten)
obviously I'm largely to blame if I was interested for not expressing such
but as a seller it's in your best interest to look for the best possible
deal. I guess what I'm getting at is that the trade market probably
isn't as bad as people think a lack of effort on the buyers (or sellers)
part is largely to blame and activity is often rewarded. I personally am
in the middle of "Wedding Planning Hell" (one month to go) and haven't
been overly active but hopefully that will change when things have settled
down.
Good luck to all -
Dan
St. Louis - Ed Delahanty League
Expansion Team 1967-Present
Championships '80, '84, '89, '02, '03
Pittsburgh - Catfish Hunter League 1976-Present
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Hamilton2
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| posted on 8-3-2010 at 03:28 PM |
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Congrats on the engagement, Dan! I wish you all the best.
Sorry for any hard feelings Jim, I was joking about not receiving any
offers, I know that Monday is OS 35 and has already declined once. I
totally understand that.
Thanks for the compliments, jyoung and dan, I do appreciate it.
This team is a very unique one for me. We will probably dominate the next 5
seasons, but after that, during our extensive "rebuild" the majority of
MVP's and Cy Young's are going to be won by players that we traded away
(Hamner, Washington, Bob Gagliano, Geoff Trevino, Stanley Hudson, Tom
Santovenia, Alex Keaton). It isn't as if I don't give up talent. I don't
remember the last 1st round pick of my own that I kept.
Also, do you remember what happened last season? This team tied for
the wildcard. I went out and added some pieces to try to assure that that
won't happen again. Still, the difference between my "A" players and
your "A-" players is not as pronounced in a system 3 league (the A-'s
are higher, on average) which makes it much more difficult to just dominate
a league than it was with system 2. In fact, there will probably be a
season or two or three out of the next 5 (the prime of my 11 A overall's)
that I will not even make the playoffs.
-J
Philadelphia Hamiltonians (Catfish Hunter League)
Washington Hamiltonians (Vince Coleman League)
Brooklyn Hamiltonians (Sandy Amoros League)
New York Hamiltonians (Bob Horner League)
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tfarr_24
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| posted on 8-3-2010 at 04:01 PM |
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I guess the 5 game skid shows that Philly isn't absolutely
unstoppable......for a second, I thought that team might be the first 162
win team in the history of SD 
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Hamilton2
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| posted on 8-3-2010 at 04:11 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tfarr_24
I guess the 5 game skid shows that Philly isn't absolutely
unstoppable......for a second, I thought that team might be the first 162
win team in the history of SD |
Yes, losing 5 in a row sort of proves what I was saying about this season
not being a foregone conclusion. That's why they sim the games, as they
say.
In my last game vs. CIN, Larry Kliene, Juan Reach and Rick Monday went 0
for 14. And it will not be the last time this season that stuff like that
happens.
-J
Philadelphia Hamiltonians (Catfish Hunter League)
Washington Hamiltonians (Vince Coleman League)
Brooklyn Hamiltonians (Sandy Amoros League)
New York Hamiltonians (Bob Horner League)
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262run
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| posted on 8-4-2010 at 04:19 PM |
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That 5 game loss streak Philly had was a fluke. Philly has the best team I
have ever seen. We could be looking at an .800 record. The rest of us
will fight it out for wild card. No hard feelings, just the facts.
Jim~
Cuyahoga River Fire - Ed Delahanty Lg - Owner 1969 - 1998 seasons
Overall record: 2643-2379 .526 with 8 1sts, 8 2nds, 5 A.L. Champ, 5 W.S.
Champ
Damn Yankees - Pete Rose Lg - Owner 1960 - 1976 seasons
Overall record: 1676-1078 .609 with 8 1sts, 6 2nds, 7 3rds, 4 A.L. Champ, 4
W.S. Champ
Ragin' Injuns - Luis Aparicio Lg - Founding owner 1950 - 1966
Seasons
Overall record: 1605-1149 .583 with 6 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 3 A.L. Champ, 3
W.S. Champ
Trolley Dodgers - Catfish Hunter Lg - Founding owner 1950 - 1973 Seasons
Overall record: 2195-1693 .565 with 5 1sts, 7 2nds, 4 3rds, 7 N.L. Champ,
3 WS Champ
Baltimore Orioles - Carlton Fisk Lg - Owner 2000 - 2021 Seasons
Overall record: 2130-1435 .597 with 9 1st, 4 2nd, 1 3rd, 7 A.L. Champ, 3
WS Champ
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dangallo
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| posted on 8-4-2010 at 04:37 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 262run
That 5 game loss streak Philly had was a fluke. Philly has the best team I
have ever seen. We could be looking at an .800 record. The rest of us
will fight it out for wild card. No hard feelings, just the facts.
Jim~ |
I disagree that this is the best team I've ever seen - Joe was in the MWL
about a year and a half/two years ago when I had 9 A rated pitchers (or
better one was A+, most were starters, very few if any were the A+/B+
variety) to go with a VERY good offense maybe not as many "A" ratings but
A+ power up and down the lineup...that league was so deep I think I
actually missed the playoffs that season.
Now, I don't disagree that he will run away with the division especially
since the second best team (yours) has gotten off to such a slow start.
St. Louis - Ed Delahanty League
Expansion Team 1967-Present
Championships '80, '84, '89, '02, '03
Pittsburgh - Catfish Hunter League 1976-Present
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Hamilton2
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| posted on 8-4-2010 at 04:44 PM |
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True, Dan's team that year was incredible. He did have 9 A or
higher rated pitchers, and a lineup with red letter power top-to-bottom. He
missed the playoffs for at least 1 of those seasons that his team was the
awesome though. CLE always has a stacked team in that league, and I think
that my team of scrappers managed to take the Wild Card away from him
once.
Still, thank you for the compliments Jim. I expect that we will see a lot
of teams that look as strong as mine does now over the next few decades as
the system 3 talent inflation levels off (I think that PIT has a team that
will improve into at least 8 A overalls in about 3 seasons). If some of
your A+/B pitchers will do what Pinochet did for me last season (hit 3
control improves), you could be sitting on a 4-man A overall rotation, you
just never know.
-J
Philadelphia Hamiltonians (Catfish Hunter League)
Washington Hamiltonians (Vince Coleman League)
Brooklyn Hamiltonians (Sandy Amoros League)
New York Hamiltonians (Bob Horner League)
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